About | Portfolio | Backup | Archives | PayPal Tip Jar | Amazon Tip Jar | Shop@Amazon
Advertising


Search BillHobbs.com
Stats, Etc.


TTLB Ecosystem Stats
Powered by FeedBurner


« Why More Legislators Should Blog | Main | Watch This Space »

June 10, 2005

Does Tennessee Really Have $4 Billion Socked Away?

The Frog Gigger has been looking at the state of Tennnessee's Comprehensive Annual Financal Report and finds the state had about $4 billion squirreled away in various reserve funds, even after subtracting for current and future liabilities, at the end of 2004.

The total funds hoarded by Tennessee represents about $5,000 per family of four.

Frog Gigger writes:

Here's an interesting stat. Remember when the income tax was being discussed and the proponents were crying about the state's bond rating? According to the CAFR, Tennessee's long term debt is $1B with estimated interest over the next 25 years to be $400M. Tennessee could wipe out it's long term debt this year using 25% of the money it is hoarding thus saving the taxpayers $400M in interest. All of the experts agree that being debt free is the optimum financial condition for private as well as government entities. (2004 CAFR, page 59).

So why is Tennessee not debt free?

Good question.

Here's another good question that we ought to be asking this person and this person and this person and all of these folks and all of these people too: How much of that squirreled-away $4 billion is federal dollars obligated to certain projects and programs - and how much of it is cash that was sucked out of the pockets of Tennessee taxpayers?

Posted in Tennessee Budget & Tax Policy | Linked By |
Please support HobbsOnline by doing your online shopping at Amazon.com
Comments

The Biggest Shell Game For Theft In This World's History! Organized Government at all levels holds back it's Financial Statement from the people of America for over 50 years! By Walter J. Burien, Jr.

http://walterburien.blogspot.com

The Biggest Shell Game For Theft In This World's History
By Walter J. Burien, Jr.

Every city, county, state, and the federal government openly talks about the "budget" but keeps a virtually hidden, SECOND SET OF BOOKS which track the investments and Enterprise ventures worth TRILLIONS of dollars in tangible wealth they have built up in these virtually hidden portfolios as a result of investing YOUR skimmed money for over 50 years in everything from real estate to the stock market.

http://web.archive.org/web/20021028013824/http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/cafr1/CAFR.html

Posted by: Doug Kenline at June 11, 2005 02:08 AM

The Truth About State and Local Governments Having Excesses of Your Tax Dollars They Are Not Using.

http://www.cafrman.com

Posted by: Doug Kenline at June 11, 2005 02:21 AM

Keep in mind that those "federal dollars" are also "cash that was sucked out of the pockets of Tennessee taxpayers, just using a different method.

Posted by: Michael Chaney at June 11, 2005 07:51 AM

I've been blogging on the open secret of CAFRs since 2002. State Senator Curtis Person brought it out in the open late in 2002, promising to have it looked into. He never did.

Look at it this way: What we get presented in public discussions of State finances is the same as someone only showing you their paystub and their bills, then claiming one doesn't cover the other.

But then you ask them about the house they own, the savings accounts, the retirement and pension accounts, the college funds for the kids, the Christmas account; the cars, boats, bikes, etc. they own; the properties they own. You get the idea. Suddenly, you see this person doesn't have any money problems, but spending problems.

CAFRs are the same thing: a complete financial audit of the State. They used to be simple, short statements back when no one knew what they were or that they even existed, but in recent years they have ballooned into hundred-plus page monsters intended to hide information.

Looking for them online is also fun. They are buried deep in the F&A website under an innocuous and misleading name. When you click on them you get a grave warning first about PDF documents. No other PDF link in government I've seen does this.

Counties and incorporated cities have to do the same thing. Try looking up the CAFRs for your city or county sometime.

Posted by: mike hollihan at June 11, 2005 01:05 PM

The NET WORTH and GROSS INCOME are far detached from a specific and selectively created Budget report. Broaden your horizon now, and understand the deception fed to you on the self-serving plate presented from your Bureaucratic, Administrative, Corporate, and For Profit government.

http://cafr1.com/

Google Walter J. Burien

Posted by: Doug Kenline at June 11, 2005 02:29 PM

Governor Bredesen, then, didn't need to cut TennCare...if these figures are correct. In fact, there are internal memos that show this administration will suddenly discover money in 2006--election yr--so some enrollees can be added back.
Watch my blog early Monday morning...and this blog and others who will have the info as well.

Posted by: Sharon at June 11, 2005 02:40 PM

Mr Hobbs how about a little more information? How much debt does Tennessee have? How much is Tennessee's share of Bush and the neo-con's middle east rearrangement?

Could you please explain why you are all upset about having to pay taxes and yet you support the current administration which has given us a historic debt? Who do you imagine is going to have to pay that debt? The top 2% got tax cuts so they are not going to have to pay it are they?

If TN had an income tax then each could pay according to their ability. You are paying more then the owner of the Titans and Tennessee professional footballl players who are multi-millionaries. Is that why you're angry? Guess if you had the right values you'd be a football player instead of a blogger.

Posted by: yeula at June 11, 2005 02:42 PM

Yeula's back! Whee! To celebrate, I'm going to fisk yeula's rather dumb comment:

Mr Hobbs how about a little more information?
I gave you a link to Frog Gigger's post, and to the CAFR itself - that's all the information there is. I've held nothing back!
How much debt does Tennessee have?
As I noted in the post, about $1 billion in debt.
How much is Tennessee's share of Bush and the neo-con's middle east rearrangement?
That would be zero - Tennessee's budget is separate from the federal budget and you will find no line item in it for the Iraq operations.
Could you please explain why you are all upset about having to pay taxes and yet you support the current administration which has given us a historic debt?
I'm not "all upset about having to pay taxes." I am willing to pay taxes when necessary. And my post is about Tennessee's budget, not the federal budget, which has the debt to which you refer. Most of that debt was amassed under the presidents prior to the current president.
Who do you imagine is going to have to pay that debt?
Taxpayers, of course.
The top 2% got tax cuts so they are not going to have to pay it are they?
Actually, the wealthy pay most of the taxes and even after the fairly minor tax cuts they got, they still will. In fact, thanks to the growing economy they are paying more taxes than ever. And the Bush tax cuts removed 30 million people from rolls.
If TN had an income tax then each could pay according to their ability. You are paying more then the owner of the Titans and Tennessee professional footballl players who are multi-millionaries. Is that why you're angry? Guess if you had the right values you'd be a football player instead of a blogger.
Blah blah blah. The Titans all pay much higher property taxes than I do. Posted by: Bill Hobbs at June 11, 2005 03:43 PM

She obviously didn't pay attention in civics class but she probably learned something in political philosphy.

Yeula says "each could pay according to their ability." Which Marxist also said that? Oh yeah, it was Karl Marx.

Posted by: Matthew White at June 11, 2005 10:44 PM

A few State CAFRs to download and circulate to all. Look at that 10 year statistical section in the back. It shows the growth.

CAFRs are much smaller than Budget Reports. CAFRs are designed to show consolidated totals.

Keep in mind that when you read a State CAFR, several cities in the state may show more investments; income; and wealth than State Gov Inc. shows.

EXAMPLE: 1995 the Manhatten, NY METRO CAFR showed 2x that of the State of NY's CAFR holdings.

Provided FYI - From: WJB

Alabama:

http://www.comptroller.state.al.us/cafr.htm

Alaska:

http://www.state.ak.us/admin/dof/fin-afr.htm

Arizona (2000 .pdf download) AZ pulled 1994 - 1999:

http://www.gao.state.az.us/financials/CAFR/CAFR2002/02-%20CAFRall.pdf

http://www.gao.state.az.us/financials/CAFR/CAFR2001.pdf

http://www.gao.state.az.us/financials/CAFR/CAFR00/introduction.htm

Arkansas:

http://www.accessarkansas.org/dfa/accounting/cafr.html

http://www.accessarkansas.org/dfa/accounting/cafr2000/

http://www.accessarkansas.org/dfa/accounting/cafr1999/

http://www.accessarkansas.org/dfa/odd/recent.html

California:

http://www.sco.ca.gov/ard/cafr/cafr02.shtml

http://www.sco.ca.gov/ard/cafr/cafr01.shtml

http://www.sco.ca.gov/ard/cafr/cafr00.shtml

http://www.sco.ca.gov/ard/cafr/cafr99.shtml

http://www.sco.ca.gov/ard/cafr/cafr98.shtml

California - Cities:

http://www.sco.ca.gov/ard/local/locrep/cities/9899/cities.shtml

California - Counties:

http://www.sco.ca.gov/ard/local/locrep/counties/9899/index.shtml

California School Districts:

http://www.sco.ca.gov/ard/local/locrep/school/98-99/index.shtml

Colorado:

http://www.state.co.us/gov_dir/audit_dir/2003/2003fin/1433 CAFR PERA.pdf

http://www.colorado.gov/dpa/dfp/sco/cafr/cafr96/cafr.html

Connecticut:

http://www.osc.state.ct.us/2002cafr/contents.htm

http://www.osc.state.ct.us/2001cafr/contents.htm

http://www.osc.state.ct.us/2000cafr/contents.htm

Delaware:

http://www.state.de.us/account/2002cafr/2002-cafr.html

http://www.state.de.us/account/2001cafr/2001-cafr.html

http://www.state.de.us/account/2000cafr/2000-cafr.html

Florida:

http://www.dbf.state.fl.us/aadir/cafrlist.html (2002 - 1996 CAFRs)

Georgia:

http://www2.state.ga.us/departments/audit/ppd/cafr_main.htm

Hawaii:

http://www.state.hi.us/dags/cafr/index.html

Idaho:

http://www.sco.state.id.us/dsa/fr.htm#99CAFR

http://www.sco.state.id.us/dsa/fr.htm#98CAFR

http://www.sco.state.id.us/dsa/fr.htm#97CAFR

http://www.sco.state.id.us/dsa/fr.htm#96CAFR

Illinois:

http://163.191.177.7/ioc-pdf/CAFR_2000.pdf

http://163.191.177.7/ioc-pdf/CAFR_2001.pdf

Indiana:

http://www.state.in.us/auditor/publications/2002cafr.html

http://www.state.in.us/auditor/publications/2001cafr.html

http://www.state.in.us/auditor/publications/2000cafr.html

http://www.state.in.us/auditor/publications/1999cafr.html

Iowa:

http://das.sae.iowa.gov/financial_reports/index.html

Kansas:

http://da.state.ks.us/ar/finrept/cafr2002.htm

http://da.state.ks.us/ar/finrept/afr2001.htm

Kentucky:

http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/finance/manuals/tax/02CAFR.pdf

http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/finance/manuals/tax/01CAFR.pdf

http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/finance/manuals/tax/00CAFR.pdf

http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/finance/manuals/tax/kcafr98.pdf

http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/finance/manuals/tax/kcafr97.pdf

http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/finance/manuals/tax/kcafr96.pdf

Louisiana:

http://www.state.la.us/osrap/library/Publications/cafr2002beg-end.pdf

http://www.state.la.us/osrap/library/Publications/cafr01.pdf

http://www.state.la.us/osrap/library/Publications/cafr99.pdf

http://www.state.la.us/osrap/library/Publications/cafr98d.pdf

http://www.state.la.us/osrap/library/Publications/cafr97.pdf

http://www.state.la.us/osrap/library/Publications/cafr96.pdf

http://www.state.la.us/osrap/library/Publications/cafr95.pdf

http://www.state.la.us/osrap/library/Publications/cafr94.pdf

Maine:

www.maine.gov/bac/financial_reporting/2001/cafr.pdf

www.maine.gov/bac/financial_reporting/2000/cafr.pdf

Maryland:

http://www.marylandtaxes.com/publications/fiscalrprts/cafr-99.pdf

http://www.marylandtaxes.com/publications/fiscalrprts/cafr-98.pdf

Massachusetts:

http://www.state.ma.us/osc/Reports/99cafr/Intro99.htm

http://www.state.ma.us/osc/Reports/98cafr/Intro98.htm

http://www.state.ma.us/osc/Reports/97CAFR/Intro.htm

http://www.state.ma.us/osc/Reports/96CAFR/Intro.htm

http://www.state.ma.us/osc/Reports/95CAFR/Intro.htm

http://www.state.ma.us/osc/Reports/94cafr/OSC/CAFR/Massfy94.htm

Michigan:

http://www.michigan.gov/budget/0,1607,7-157-13406_13419-56728--,00.html [2002]

http://www.michigan.gov/budget/0,1607,7-157-13406_13419-33703--,00.html

http://www.michigan.gov/budget/0,1607,7-157-13406_13419-34672--,00.html [2000]

http://www.michigan.gov/budget/0,1607,7-157-13406_13419-35442--,00.html [1999]

Minnesota:

http://www.finance.state.mn.us/accounting/

Mississippi:

http://msonline.state.ms.us/CAFR/cafr99/cafr99.htm

http://msonline.state.ms.us/CAFR/cafr98/cafr98.htm

http://msonline.state.ms.us/CAFR/cafr97/cafr97.htm

Missouri:

http://www.dor.state.mo.us/cafr/pdffiles/CAFR2001.pdf

http://www.dor.state.mo.us/cafr/pdffiles/CAFR2000.pdf

Montana:

http://www.state.mt.us/doa/adm/cafr/CAFR.htm

NEVADA:

http://controller.nv.gov/CAFR_pdf_files/FY02All.pdf

http://controller.nv.gov/CAFR_pdf_files/FY01All.pdf

http://controller.nv.gov/CAFR_pdf_files/FY00All.pdf

http://controller.nv.gov/CAFR_pdf_files/FY99all.pdf

New Hampshire:

http://admin.state.nh.us/accounting/00nhcafr.pdf

http://admin.state.nh.us/accounting/99nhcafr.pdf

http://admin.state.nh.us/accounting/98nhcafr.pdf

New Jersey:

http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/omb/publications/01cafr/pdf/01cafr.pdf

http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/omb/publications/00cafr/pdf/00cafr.pdf

http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/omb/publications/99cafr/pdf/99cafr.pdf

http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/omb/publications/98cafr/pdf/cafr.pdf

New York:

http://www.osc.state.ny.us/finance/finreports/cafr02.pdf

http://www.osc.state.ny.us/finance/finreports/cafr01.pdf

http://www.osc.state.ny.us/finance/finreports/cafr99.pdf

North Carolina:

http://www.osc.state.nc.us/financial/

North Dakota:

http://www.state.nd.us/fiscal/CAFR/CAFRIndex.htm

http://www.state.nd.us/rio/NDRIO/Publications/AnnualReport.pdf (2002 ND-RET)

Ohio:

http://www.state.oh.us/obm/BusinessCommunityPage/Financial/CAFR/cafr02/2002cafr.pdf

http://www.state.oh.us/obm/BusinessCommunityPage/Financial/CAFR/cafr01/oh01cafr.PDF

http://www.state.oh.us/obm/BusinessCommunityPage/Financial/CAFR/cafr00/oh00cafr.PDF

http://www.state.oh.us/obm/BusinessCommunityPage/Financial/CAFR/cafr99/oh99cafr.PDF

http://www.state.oh.us/obm/BusinessCommunityPage/Financial/CAFR/cafr98/oh98cafr.PDF

http://www.state.oh.us/obm/BusinessCommunityPage/Financial/CAFR/cafr97/oh97cafr.PDF

http://www.state.oh.us/obm/BusinessCommunityPage/Financial/CAFR/cafr96/oh96cafr.PDF

http://www.state.oh.us/obm/BusinessCommunityPage/Financial/CAFR/cafr95/oh95cafr.PDF

Oklahoma:

http://www.osf.state.ok.us/cafr02.pdf

http://www.osf.state.ok.us/cafr01.pdf

http://www.state.ok.us/osfdocs/00cafr.pdf

http://www.state.ok.us/osfdocs/cafr1-99.html

http://www.state.ok.us/osfdocs/cafr1-98.html

http://www.state.ok.us/osfdocs/cafr1-97.html

http://www.state.ok.us/osfdocs/cafr1-96.html

http://www.state.ok.us/osfdocs/cafr1-95.html

http://www.state.ok.us/osfdocs/cafr1-94.html

Oregon:

http://scd.das.state.or.us/DAS/SCD/SARS/docs/2003_CAFR.pdf

http://scd.das.state.or.us/DAS/SCD/SARS/docs/2002_CAFR.pdf

http://scd.das.state.or.us/DAS/SCD/SARS/docs/2001_CAFR.pdf

http://scd.das.state.or.us/DAS/SCD/SARS/docs/2000_CAFR.pdf


Pennsylvania:

http://www.oit.state.pa.us/budget/lib/budget/2000-2001/cafr/index.html

PA pulled the CAFRs from public viewing on the Internet. The above link is

to request a hard copy of the CAFR

South Carolina:

http://www.cg.state.sc.us/cafr02/index.htm

http://www.cg.state.sc.us/cafr01/index.htm

http://www.cg.state.sc.us/cafr00/index.htm

(For the CAFR Prior to 1999, request hard copy)

South Dakota:

http://www.state.sd.us/bfm/cafr/fy01/index.htm

http://www.state.sd.us/bfm/cafr/fy/00index.htm

http://www.state.sd.us/bfm/cafr/fy99/index.htm

http://www.state.sd.us/bfm/cafr/fy98/index.htm

http://www.state.sd.us/bfm/cafr/fy97/index.htm

Tennessee:

http://www.state.tn.us/finance/act/cafr.html [1997 - 2002]

Texas:

http://www.window.state.tx.us/fm/pubs/cafr/

Utah:

http://wwwfin.state.ut.us/reports/cafr.htm

Vermont:

http://www.state.vt.us/fin/Fin%20Publications/2001cafr.pdf

http://www.state.vt.us/fin/Fin%20Publications/2000cafr.pdf

http://www.state.vt.us/fin/Fin%20Publications/1999cafr.pdf

Virginia:

http://www.doa.state.va.us/docs/Publications/CAFR/cafr.htm

Washington:

http://www.ofm.wa.gov/cafr/2002/cafr02toc.htm

http://www.ofm.wa.gov/cafr/2001/cafr01toc.htm

http://www.ofm.wa.gov/cafr/2000/cafr00toc.htm

http://www.ofm.wa.gov/cafr/1999/cafr99toc.htm

(Washington pulled all pre 1999 CAFRS)

West Virginia:

http://www.state.wv.us/admin/finance/cafrgap.htm

Wisconsin:

http://www.doa.state.wi.us/debf/cafr/fy01/01CAFR.HTM

http://www.doa.state.wi.us/debf/cafr/fy00/00CAFR.HTM

http://www.doa.state.wi.us/debf/cafr/fy99/99CAFR.HTM

http://www.doa.state.wi.us/debf/cafr/fy98/98CAFR.HTM

http://www.doa.state.wi.us/debf/cafr/fy97/97cafrm.htm

http://www.doa.state.wi.us/debf/cafr/fy96/96cafrm.htm

http://www.doa.state.wi.us/debf/cafr/fy95/95cafrm.htm

Wyoming:(look 2/3rds down page)

http://sao.state.wy.us/download.htm

Posted by: Walter Burien at July 5, 2005 11:39 PM
Post a comment
Comments Policy: Your comment is subject to deletion if it is off-topic or includes foul language or personal attack. Readers, please email me if you find comments that include egregious violations of this policy. Comments may not post immediately - do not post twice!









Remember personal info?






Email this entry to:


Your email address:


Message (optional):




back to top
Advertising

Lamar!

Find the Good
and Praise It
I Also Blog At...
button-fcs-blog.gif
Archives
Blogroll