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February 10, 2004

Immigration News

In all the swirling debate over President Bush's plan for a "guest worker" program for currently-illegal immigrants, it's worth noting that immigration is not all bad. Immigration is good for the real estate industry. (Though we do wish they'd move here legally.)

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Bush's 'worker' plan is excellent and expected. The Wealth of Nations is his playbook and reading it makes him almost completely predictable. Several weeks before he came out with his worker plan I told my wife that he'd do something like this. I thought he'd wait until after the election though; to avoid the surface-smart protectionist back-lash from both the left and right.

He seems to be doing a Reagan-esque -- lead with policy and ideology and let the politics take care of itself -- kind of plan. That's good too... 'cause after watching the Russert interview it's pretty evident he sucks on the national politics front... I was sitting there screaming at the TV about what he should be saying and how he should be responding to better explain his positions as he stumbled almost carelessly into his justifications.

Each decision he's made is founded in an ideology that is rational and, given proper explaination, potentially popular.

It's time for some scripted fire-side chats... or maybe a Reagan-like 'stack of dollars to the moon' speech or two.

Posted by: jimmy at February 10, 2004 09:11 AM

Jimmy - The immigration/Wealth of Nations connection sounds interesting. Write an essay and I'll post it here.

Posted by: Bill at February 10, 2004 09:41 AM

The harsh reality is that we're now dependent on the millions of Mexicans here illegally for their labor. That we get other benefits is the icing on the cake.

I'm still not sold on the "guest worker" program, but we really need to do something besides ignore 10 million people (or however many it is now) living among us.

Posted by: Michael Chaney at February 10, 2004 11:14 PM

The real estate industry is probably just the tip of the iceberg. I'd love to see a study on the economic contribution of illegal immigrants which includes their impact from a consumption standpoint. These folks are buying cars, televisions, cell phones, etc. Anyone know of such as study?

Posted by: Jorge at February 11, 2004 01:03 AM

I don't think it's a "harsh reality"... I think it's great that the market has responded to the demand. You know... win/win... growing pie... rising tide... and all that good stuff.

I wrote something on this a few weeks ago Bill... I'll try to dig it up for you or else churn out another if you like... and I'd be flattered if you'd consider it.

Posted by: jimmy at February 11, 2004 11:08 AM

THE TRUTH:

All immigration is not equal. The European stock that arrived on the shores of America and built this country was reared by Western Values: advance through higher education, work hard, advance ones self, build a grand society, fear God. Thus the rise of the United States of American began.

Immigration: From 1920 to 1964 the United States of America had a near zero immigration policy. America did however still let people of European stock enter the United States and apply for citizenship. In 1920 for instance we specifically banned all immigration from Asia, less Japan, because too many Asians were coming to America as the U.S. Congress stated. America has enjoyed long periods of very little immigration where the assimilation process was allowed to work its magic.

1964 CHANGED AMERICA FOR GOOD: The Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1964 changed the face of America forever. This act was signed by President Johnson and was drafted by a very liberal congress. It stated that America would no longer allow a bias toward the European Immigrant. That is, no favoratism would be made toward people built of European stock. You can find this act by running a search on Google.com. The discussions are legendary and the usual suspects are all over it. Ted Kennedy was his usual and of course voted in favor of this act. Anyone who still thinks women are not as smart as men really needs to read this. A wonderful female analyst argued with all the passion God gave her in opposition to this Act. I often wonder where she is today and how she feels about this cultural destruction we have been watching take place in America since 1964.

AMERICA IN 2005:

Today the United States of America is facing a cultural crisis. We have a huge number on uneducated, unskilled people pouring into our country from Mexico. This huge influx of people is creating a country within a country. The racial, cultural, and language differences of the Mexican people, combined with their huge numbers have created a situation where by they do not need to assimilate. It is as if they are simply extending the size of Mexico by simply breeding and moving north. The Mexican government actually encourages and promotes this exercise.

WHAT MUST BE DONE:

We must seal the border with Mexico. We must drive all illegal Mexicans out of the United States of America. Further, we must be prepared to strip every Mexican/American of their citizenship. This will not be an easy task. First, they will burn much of Southern California when we force the illegals to leave. Huge protest rallies will rise up all over the West. It will be very ugly. NAFTA will be cancelled in this process as well. The United States Military will be placed on the border. The Mexicans who have U.S. Citizenship will turn against America in droves. This should be met with a stripping of their U.S. Citizenship. When will what I am suggesting happen, if ever? The seeds have been planted for this kind of final confrontation, but it is decades away. The Mexicans will only have themselves to blame when this happens. Groups like La Raza want Mexico to take back, through their massive birth rate and migration north, control of the west. La Raza holds summer camps where it teaches young Mexican /Americans that California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas belongs to them. Thus, when they reach for empire and are driven from this land, they will only have to blame themselves for being thrown from America. We will not be controlled by these people forever. Our culture and way of life will not be ruined by these un-American savages who hate the white man and do not assimilate because of their hatred and racism against whites. It should be noted that I am often called a racist. The truth is, I am in favor of immigration from all parts of the world except Mexico . No other group that comes to this country dreams of taking it back, killing whites in the process, and destroying America. END ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION NOW OR FACE WAR DECADES FROM NOW.

Posted by: Ames Tiedeman at May 10, 2005 07:36 AM

I told you this would happen. Traitor Mexicans with American citizenship attack a Minuteman support rally. Read this and just wait another 5 decades when the western USA is Mexican run. Can you say the end of a 50 state union? It will happen if the US Government does not wake up. When will people listen?? YOU CANNOT CREATE A NATION WITHIN A NATION AND HAVE EVERYTHING WORK OUT JUST FINE!!!!!


May 26, 2005
latimes.com : California
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Violence Erupts at O.C. Protest

Crowd gets rough and police swarm in after a Minuteman event in Garden Grove.

By Monte Morin and David Reyes, Times Staff Writers


Three people were injured and at least eight arrested Wednesday in Garden Grove after a motorist drove into a crowd of 300 demonstrators protesting a speech by the founder of the Minuteman Project, authorities said.

The Minuteman Project is a citizens group that patrols the U.S.-Mexico border in an effort to stop illegal immigration.

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The demonstrators had gathered at the Women's Civic Club of Garden Grove on Chapman Avenue about 7:30 p.m. to protest an appearance by James Gilchrist, charging that he and his group were racist.

Gilchrist has denied those claims and insists the group is stopping only illegal immigration. His talk was sponsored by Citizens for Action Now, an anti-illegal immigration group.

The motorist had attended Gilchrist's speech and was leaving when protesters began hitting his van with placards and other objects, said Garden Grove Police Lt. David Kivler. The driver, who was not identified but spoke to a KCAL-TV Channel 9 reporter, said he gunned his car engine to get away from the crowd. The man was arrested.

Authorities said the incident occurred when 100 listeners attempted to leave through the crowd of demonstrators. Kivler said protesters gathered around one of their cars.

"They surrounded it and started beating on it," Kivler said. Then, a second car tried to get through the crowd as well.

"As he was doing so he hit at least three people," Kivler said. All three were transported to a local hospital. None had major injuries, he said.

Kivler said the crowd grew increasingly boisterous after the injuries.

He said protesters began throwing filled soda cans at the assembled Garden Grove, Anaheim and CHP officers. At least eight people were arrested on suspicion of felony assault, while others were booked for disturbing the peace.

A witness, Eric Garcia, 22, of Anaheim said the evening turned ugly about 9 p.m. after the talk.

He said some protesters were in a driveway when someone in a car tried to leave and made contact with the group. "Then all hell broke loose," Garcia said. "People started throwing things, like rocks and bricks and stuff."

Within minutes, he said, there were about 30 police cars, and dozens of officers on horseback or wearing SWAT gear.

Protester Jose Gonzales, 27, a graduate student at UCLA, said he noticed dozens of additional police officers, some of them on horseback, arriving on the scene. He said they began making arrests and dispersing the crowd, which had been marching in front of the building where Gilchrist was speaking.

"When the meeting let out … police dragged people, men and women," Gonzales said. "There were men and women and children running away…. I ran. I lost my shoe."

By 10 p.m. police ordered the crowd to disperse, saying they were part of an unlawful assembly. If they refused, police said, they would be arrested. Within half an hour, the streets were nearly empty of protesters.

Posted by: Ames Tiedeman at May 26, 2005 07:41 AM
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