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« Just Using My Free Speech Right | Main | Next Year » January 10, 2004Nothing to See Here, Move AlongSomebody found something in Iraq that might be a banned weapon of mass destruction. But don't worry. The hate-Bush crowd knows Saddam didn't have any weapons of mass destruction. So if this turns out to be an actual banned WMD, you'll soon here the hate-Bush crowd explain that it isn't very much WMD, or wasn't nukes, or was useless 'cuz it was buried, or some such nonsense. UPDATE: Glenn Reynolds makes some good points about this story. UPDATE: As a reader of Instapundit said in an email to Glenn: That sound you hear is the left ripping up the "Saddam never had WMD" goalposts and moving them back to "Saddam wasn't a threat the US with 36 old rusty shells". No matter what we find in Iraq, it won't be "enough to justify the war."Check out the goalpost-moving comments below... UPDATE: The shells are reported to not contain chemical weapons. Which of course doesn't really matter, since the casus belli for the invasion of Iraq and the toppling of Saddam Hussein was not the presence of weapons of mass destruction or WMD programs, but Saddam's refusal to comply with UN resolutions requiring him to reveal all the facts, and provable dismantle and dispose of his WMD and WMD programs. He not only failed to "come clean" before the UN, he actively sought to impede UN inspections and generally to portray himself as having not ended his WMD programs and disposed of his WMD. It was Saddam's decade of lies and deception that provided the legal justification for war. Whether we find one chemical weapon or a thousand of them... whether we find a ready-to-fire nuke or simply some notes about how to make one... whether we find biological weaponry or merely a few houseplants... Saddam invited war by failing to comply, and by posturing as a well-armed thug. His regime - which fed dissidents into shredding machines, operated "rape rooms," slaughtered his own people with chemical weapons, and murdered innocent Iraqi men, women and children by the hundreds of thousands and buried them in mass graves - needed killin'. Posted in Weapons of Mass Destruction
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Now, if they can only find the taxicabs Saddam planned to use as a delivery system. Thank God they were found in time. It is truly amusing to witness otherwise intelligent people attempting to carve this square peg to fit a round hole. Posted by: SemiPundit at January 11, 2004 12:49 AMI knew I could come here to find Bill, spreader of rumors and falsehoods, spreading this one about. Have you seen the pics of your WMDs (checkout the LA Times and Atrios). No way those things were going to be used by anyone. By your logic, the City of San Francisco and the National Park Service also had WMDs as of October 2002, when four leaking vials of Mustard Gas from the 60s were found on the Presidio -- after they had injured workers. Posted by: anon at January 11, 2004 01:00 AMNo, by this logic, the discovery of those vials means the US Army had chemical weapons when they still had the Presidio. Which they did. Posted by: Charlie at January 11, 2004 11:43 AMCharlie, Note what you wrote, "when they still had the Presidio". Bill is arguing that these rusty, leaking shells buried in a marsh were part the Iraqi ordinance in 2003. (Even the US Army says they were left over from the Iran Iraq war.) No one is arguing that the Iraqi never had or used WMD (when WMD means chemical weapons). Folks are arguing that the Iraqi didn't have WMD in 2002, and 2003. Bill is twisting the arguments as usual. Posted by: anon at January 11, 2004 02:56 PMAnother violation of the UN. The coalition will find more. Posted by: Sandy P. at January 11, 2004 08:04 PMSaddam's violation of UN resolutions including failing to prove he had disposed of/dismantled his WMD and WMD program before the war. That ALONE was legal justification for the war. Posted by: Bill Hobbs at January 11, 2004 08:18 PMSaddam's violation of UN resolutions including failing to prove he had disposed of/dismantled his WMD and WMD program before the war. That ALONE was legal justification for the war. Given this (and I agree with this statement), why is it that every time something like this comes up you feel compelled to again jump up and down yelling "told you so". 30 canisters don't make a chemical weapons program, particular stuff left over from the Iran war that was probably forgotten. By the way, Bill, I think you forgot to blog about the fact that Powell has now said that there's no credible link between Iraq and al Qaeda. Posted by: Michael Chaney at January 12, 2004 08:42 AMAs someone else pointed out (on a different blog), the fact that these weapons are supposed to have been there for years shows the ineffectiveness of the UN weapons inspectors. To accept the fact that these shells have been there for years, we have to accept the fact that the UN Inspections were failing miserably. First we find the jets that were buried, then we find these shells, and we've been there for less than a year. The hidden centerfuges, the vials of botulinium, the jets, these shells, all point to several facts. There was an infrastructure set up to produce weapons of mass destruction. We can argue about the actual existance of said weapons if you want, but there can be no argument that Saddam was working to aquire and build those weapons. And the UN Inspectors didn't find squat. Only when we removed Saddam and were able to access the country without his hindrance did we begin to find everything. Posted by: Raging Dave at January 12, 2004 04:24 PMPost a comment
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