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« If This is True... | Main | On Blogging » October 2, 2003The Plame Game: More QuestionsSeattle blogger Bob Mong wonders: if Valerie Plame was really a covert CIA agent, how come the Los Angeles Times knows this: Wilson's wife works with Foley in the CIA's Nonproliferation Center. And then there's this from the LA Times: ...But David Manners, a former CIA case agent in the Middle East, said such concerns were probably unnecessary. 'If the implication is she ran clandestine operations around the world using her true name, then the real story is: What kind of crazy operation was she running? Because if you're operating clandestinely under your true name, you're a fool.' And one administration official said it was possible that the leaker did not realize that he was unmasking a clandestine CIA officer by naming Wilson's wife."Also... Plame's husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson gave a speech, titled Iraq: Disarmament or Conquest?, on January 22 , 2003, at the "Global Forces in the Post-Cold War World" Lecture Series at the Interdisciplinary Humanities Center at the University of California-Santa Barbara. The link to the archived RealPlayer video of Wilson's speech is on this webpage. [Hat tip: Bob Mong.] I haven't watched it yet because RealPlayer doesn't seem to work well on my PC. But judging from the title and the pre-war timing of the speech, I'm betting Wilson argues against the war. UPDATE: Okay, I downloaded the latest version of RealPlayer and then watched the speech. And ya know, I was right. Wilson was against the war. He starts talking about 8:45 into the video (after long-winded introductions) and then spends the first 8 minutes of his speech making a few introductory remarks of his own, before getting the meat of his presentation. But when he does, he starts with a bang. Some choice excerpts below, with a few comments of my own: What I want to talk today about what I think is a real dangerous road upon which we are embarking and that is the road to war in Iraq.Get it? Wilson supported leaving Saddam in power. He opposed Iraq becoming a free and democratic nation. But of course, he thinks Saddam was a bad man. He heads one of the two most horrible regimes in the world, the other being North Korea. ... The world will be far better off when he and his thugs are gone. The Arab world will heave a collective sigh of relief, as will our European allies, as will we - because nothing could be worse than Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq over the long term.Get ready for the "but"... The question is not whether Saddam Hussein is a good man or a bad man. The question is whether or not we're going to act in our vital national security interest or whether we are going to act on a substantially different agenda.Wilson's advice: When the going gets tough, stop. [Ever since the first Gulf War] there has been a small cabal of zealots in Washington who have been driving an agenda designed to overthrow Saddam Hussein, not because he has weapons of mass destruction, not because he may or may not be linked to terrorism, but because they want to establish a beachhead in the Arab world from which to work to change the political map of the Arab world and essentially ensure Israel 75 more years of security by enfeebling the Arab governments that are arrayed against it."Wilson: Blame the Jews for us going to war. Please note Wilson preferred we focus on disarming Iraq, and opposed a policy aimed at peace in the Middle East and enhanced security for Israel. What? He think Middle East peace is a bad idea? The shorthand for this is the road to Middle East peace goes through Baghdad. In my judgment and in the judgment of a lot of people who do this for a living, including those people who've been involved in the mediation effort for any number of years, the Middle East peace process still goes through Jerusalem and will for the foreseeable future.Translation: there won't be peace in the Middle East until Jerusalem - that is, the Jews - want there to be peace. Sounds to me like Wilson has grown so used to the the peace "process" that he doesn't mind that it never seems to produce a peace result. September 11 occurred and on September 12 these people very callously seized the opportunity to make the case based on the simple thesis that September 11 was a horrible event, Saddam Hussein is a horrible man, ergo, two horribles equal kill Saddam Hussein - and that has been the driving thesis for this ever since.That's the whole thesis? No worry that Saddam might give weapons and support to al Qaida or some other terror group? No discussion that the September 11 attack proved that Islamist terror groups could strike at the U.S. mainland, and if they got a weapon of mass destruction from Saddam then 3,000 dead would seem small? Just - 'September 11 bad, Saddam bad, kill Saddam'? Wilson is either playing cute with the other side's argument, or he's just too stupid to understand the argument in all its depth and complexity. If you've read Bob Woodward's book, he makes very clear that within two days of September 11, Don Rusted and Paul Wolfowitz were trying to figure out ways to use September 11 as a way to get at Saddam Hussein and effect this policy of regime change.Well, actually, yes because we were worried about weapons of mass destruction moving from Saddam's arsenal to terrorists headed for America. Wilson then goes on to lay his alternative - UN inspections backed by the threat of force - and then makes an astonishing claim: We need to remember in all of this that Iraq did not build weapons of mass destruction because the United States was an enemy - Iraq built weapons of mass destruction because it was surrounded by a nuclear armed Israel, a Turkey that had occupied it for 400 years and has 75 million people, and an Iran with which it has been at war for the last 150 years and which also has twice the population of Iraq. Saddam or no Saddam, there is still going to be a desire amongst the national security apparatus to have weapons that allow a relatively small population to defend itself against larger rapacious neighbors and aggressive neighbors.So... Saddam wants nukes to protect itself against Israel. That's strange because I remember a time when Saddam attacked Israel with Scuds. And I remember a time when Saddam promised to destroy Israel. But I don't remember a time when Israel ever promised to destroy Iraq. Hmm. Please also note that Wilson describes Israel as "rapacious" and "aggressive." He blames the Jews for Saddam's seeking weapons of mass destruction. Who, I wonder, does Wilson blame for the chemical gassing of thousands of Kurds? Maybe he blames Israel - after all, if the Jews weren't so rapacious and aggressive, Saddam wouldn't have had to develop chemical weapons and wouldn't have had to test them on the Kurds to make sure they worked... Let's continue. No, never mind. I won't subject you to any more of the "apolitical" Joe Wilson. Just answer me one question if you can. Why did the CIA send this Saddam-coddler to Niger to find out of Saddam had tried to buy uranium for bombs? After all, he thinks Saddam had a good reason to want weapons of mass destruction. Surely a man with that viewpoint would not be the most likely person to find evidence in Niger that could be used to justify a war which he vehemently opposed. Comments
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