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June 4, 2007

Sen. Alexander Wants Border-State Governors to Verify Border Security Progress Before "Path to Citizenship" Begins

Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tennessee, said he would try to amend the immigration reform legislation now pending in the Senate with a requirement that a group of people other than from inside the Beltway decide when the federal government has met the border security benchmarks necessary to trigger implementation of the "path to citizenship" provisions within the legislation for the 12 million illegal immigrants already here.

"I believe that it ought to to be somebody other than just Washington officials who decide that the border security is functional," Alexander said during a 25-minute phone interview with BillHobbs.com which focused mostly on immigration. Alexander's proposal: amend the legislation so that a group of southern border-state governors plus one or two from states that border Canada would have to verify with Homeland Security that the benchmarks had been met, before the section of the legislation offering a "path to citizenship" to the 12 million illegal immigrants already in the United States became effective.

You can listen to a 15-minute excerpt of the interview, dealing with the Iraq war and with immigration reform, by clicking here

The proposed immigration reform legislation has two basic parts, Alexander said.

The first part focuses on border security - the fence, more border patrol agents, more use of technology to watch the border, etc. - and on addressing the employer side of the equation, by implementing employer verification, etc. The second part addresses what to do about the 12 million illegals now in the country - it includes the fines and the "path to citizenship" requirements that so many critics call "amnesty" for illegal immigrants.

The legislation, Alexander says, requires that the first part - the border security and employer verification aspects - be fully funded and operational before the second part - dealing with the 12 million - even begins.

I asked Sen. Alexander if the second part of the legislation was necessary - couldn't Congress just do the border security and employer verification stuff first, and deal with the 12 million later. This "fence first!" approach would go a long way toward rebuilding Washington's credibility on illegal immigration, I believe.

The Senator believes the legislation needs both sections in order to pass.

Memo to the media: You may quote from the audio of the call, or download it and use the audio in your broadcasts. Must credit: BillHobbs.com or ElephantBiz.com.

Posted in Immigration

Comments

I reported Sen. Alexander's e-newsletters as spam a long time ago. Wake me when he's over.

Posted by: Donna Locke at June 4, 2007 9:47 PM

Bill:

I live in Putnam County and it is about a 15 minute drive from my house to the meeting downtown in Cookeville. There was a registration table out front to sign people up and give out name tags. They also asked for your home and e-mail address.

There were a lot of folks from out of town. I was a little late and could drive by the cars and see out of county tags on cars. I don't see what that has to do with it when you are the senator for the whole state. Putnam County has such a weak Republican party that it would be a miracle to get more than twenty people there on Saturday anyway.

We were told early on that there would be a limited time that the Senator would be there because of another appointment in town. For this reason the format that the senator insisted on wasted more time than that re-election video he showed us.

The format of talking to people individually just burned up more time. Your interview with him was more than 14 minutes, so how many one-on-one discussions would that make if there was a crowd of 70 people? There was an aggressive attempt to hijack the pre-set agenda and change the format. One person, I think his name was Jerry, asked for a show of hands on who liked the immigration bill. Nobody liked it. One person tried to point out the inconsistency in building a fence on the southern border and not the northern border. When people started calling out questions, challenges about the cloture vote and suggesting that people were losing confidence in the legislature to fix immigration, an unfortunate demand from the organizers of the meeting that the original format be respected killed whatever good rapport existed.

I left without speaking to the senator at all. Lamar Alexander reminded me of Dr. Frankenstein trying to put this immigration monster together. He is still talking like it only needs a tweak here and there. What about the anchor babies?

I would like to have asked why it is that the left sees this bill as being good for the Socialist Security System because it imports tax payers but they totally deny that there is anything wrong with the Socialist Security System from an actuarial point of view. It is hard to ask a serious question when the veins in your neck are popping out.

So far, Bart Gordon, the Democrat Representative in this district, is representing me a whole lot better than Lamar Alexander is. On the way out, I heard a lot of pocketbooks slamming shut. I hope the guys who made that re-election video cashed the check already.

Posted by: Danny L. Newton at June 5, 2007 3:34 AM

I've contacted Lamar, Corker and Tanner on the issue...this amnesty reminds me of our lawmakers rewarding the criminals in our prisons with 'good behavior time off' their sentences simply to relieve over crowding.



6 FAILED Amnesties are enough!



What part of ILLEGAL and law breakers don't our lawmakers understand??????



Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist.' - Thomas Sowell

Posted by: Gail at June 5, 2007 6:18 AM

The secure border is the thing. And, the federal government has very little credibility. It is key to secure the border. I am at a loss as to why people are getting hung up on this amnesty part of the bill. Forget about it. It would be absurdly resource intensive (expensive) to round-up, hold, process, and transport over 10 million people. Many of the children are citizens. Let them be for the love of Pete. Those who insist we do this forget that many thought it would be relatively easy to secure and stabilize Iraq. We did not enforce our immigration laws by failing to secure our border. It would be better policy at this point to provide some way to bring the current illegals up from the underground. The focus must remain on border security. Fighting amnesty is a distraction.

Posted by: M Kennedy at June 5, 2007 10:10 AM

Tell Lamar to sell that stuff to somebody that's buying. He is a squish, always has been, and his bs on immigration is a perfect example of his attempt to obfuscate and cover his ....
Bottom line, build the fence, prosecute the employers, and there will be no problem.

Posted by: Raymond Baker at June 5, 2007 7:50 PM

WHAT THE PEOPLE OF TENNESSEE THINK ABOUT S.1348

A MESSAGE TO SENATOR ALEXANDER - I HAVE SENT MANY OTHERS.

June 6, 2007

ON THE GROUND FACTS ON IMMIGRATION BILL S.1348

FACT 1
The whole underlying intent of this bill is to blow smoke in the face of legal Americans. What else have we got from George Bush in the past 5 years?

FACT 2
A clear message to Senators McCain and Kennedy is the fact that legal Americans are now "COMING OUT OF THE SHADOWS" and they are sending a message loud and clear by joining groups to fight this AMNESTY GIVEAWAY TO ILLEGAL LAW-BREAKERS

FACT 3
This is a special message to John McCain regarding his recent statement
"I defend with no reservation our proposal to offer the people who harvest our crops, tend our gardens, work in our restaurants, care for our children and clean our homes a chance to be legal citizens of this country."

Senator, the situation you describe may happen in the EXALTED CIRCLES IN WHICH YOU TRAVEL but I can assure you that ordinary, hard-working Americans do these jobs for themselves.

HOW OUT OF TOUCH WITH REAL AMERICANS CAN YOU, GEORGE BUSH, and SENATOR KENNEDY GET????

Posted by: Mary Chamberlain at June 6, 2007 5:13 AM

I believe Marsha Blackburn would make an ideal senator in '08!!

Posted by: RABlack at June 6, 2007 12:01 PM

Watching S.1348 temporarily go down the drain in the Senate on CSpan 2, on June 7, 2007, it occurred to me how many of those men, including Lamar Alexander, had been there too long.

That this nasty piece of legislation was allowed to reach the floor of the senate, should be a reality check for Americans who continue to put into office men who have been in Washington too long to truly represent their interest.

I got a letter from Bill Frist 2 weeks before he left office. After repeated phone calls to Frist on his immigration stand, he was writing to me to say he didn't have time now to address my concerns. Frist and Alexander DO NOT REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF HARD-WORKING TENNESSEANS ON THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE.
The Frist family foundation can be found on the La Raza website as a corporate sponsor. Enought said!

Posted by: Mary Chamberlain at June 8, 2007 7:51 AM

This is off topic, but I am hoping that "Mary Chamberlain" is the same Mary Chamberlain and author of the book "Fenwomen" published abt 1973. I met a friend of Ethel Gotobed in 1954/5 and would like to discuss Ethel with you.
I hope you recieve this.
Regards Reg

Posted by: brewerreg at June 12, 2007 6:54 PM

TRYING TO REVIVE S.1348
Associated Press News at AT&T online - June 14, 2007

Senators Work to Revive Immigration Bill
Published: 6/14/07, 3:25 AM EDT
By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS
WASHINGTON (AP) - Key Republican and Democratic senators are reaching for a deal to resurrect their stalled immigration compromise by requiring that some $4 billion be spent on border security and workplace enforcement.
The mandatory security funding is part of a plan to attract more Republican support for the measure, which grants legal status to millions of unlawful immigrants.
In private meetings Wednesday, the bipartisan group that crafted the delicate compromise was hammering out a plan to allow votes on a limited set of Republican- and Democratic-sought changes in exchange for a commitment from GOP holdouts that they will back moving ahead with the bill.
Republican architects of the measure, which grants legal status to millions of unlawful immigrants, expressed confidence that such an agreement was possible as early as Thursday.
"The list is there," said Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., adding that GOP senators were ready to present their plan to Senate leaders.
With the tentative package, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid "should have what he needs to move forward," said Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz. "This is just to let him know that it can be done."
Reid has said he would revive the measure if at least 20 more Republicans commit to moving ahead with the broad immigration bill. It stalled last week when only seven GOP senators supported a Democratic bid to limit debate and expedite a final vote.
Reid expressed optimism that negotiators would strike a deal that could pave the way.
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the lead Democratic negotiator, said he supported the bid to provide mandatory funding for border security and enforcement.
"You give the assurance that when this is signed, that there are going to be the resources to do the kind of security protections that are in this legislation," Kennedy said.
Under the proposal by Kyl and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., border security and workplace enforcement would be funded up front, and eventually covered by the fines and fees set out in the broader immigration bill.
"Everybody's trying to prove that they are willing and able to enforce the law this time, unlike 1986," Kyl said, referring to the last major immigration overhaul, which established a one-year amnesty program for illegal immigrants who had been in the U.S. at least four years.
"What better way to demonstrate that other than to say, 'We're not going to let congressional appropriations dictate this - we are going to put the money up front,'" Kyl said.
As part of the tentative deal, the Senate would vote on a proposal by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, to require all illegal immigrant household heads to return to their countries of origin before obtaining legal status, Graham said. Under the legislation, only those seeking green cards - permanent legal residency - would be required to return home first.
Negotiators spent hours Wednesday huddled in meetings or on the phone. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who with Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez helped craft the bill in a series of intense and secretive talks earlier this year, was again on hand to help broker a deal.
"There's no question it's an uphill battle," Kennedy said. "It's difficult but not impossible."
A day after Bush went to Capitol Hill to field criticism from Republicans who derailed the bill, the White House said it would be open to changes to the delicate bipartisan compromise. Architects have argued their so-called "grand bargain" could collapse under the weight of poison-pill amendments.
"You may have a carefully crafted compromise, but on the other hand, you have members of both parties who want to have their say and have their input," White House press secretary Tony Snow said.
Snow also signaled support for the idea of pumping additional money into border security, which he said was worth pursuing, and played down the bitter divisions among Republicans on the issue. "This is not an internal 'fight,'" he said, and added that Bush "considers fellow Republicans friends and colleagues."
Republicans have coalesced behind the idea of assuring a funding stream for border security and workplace enforcement. Georgia Republican Sens. Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson want a separate emergency spending bill that could total as much as $15 billion to pay for such measures.
Additional funds for border and workplace crackdowns could persuade the Georgians to back the effort to resurrect the immigration bill, Chambliss said.
"We're thinking about it," he told reporters.

PROMISING MONEY TO SECURE THE BORDER IS LIKE GEORGE BUSH'S FENCE OF 2006.
IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN
SECURING THE BORDER AND PROTECTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS THE PRESIDENT'S JOB AND IF HE WON'T DO IT HE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, NOW!

Posted by: Mary Chamberlain at June 14, 2007 7:25 AM

Sorry Reg,

This Mary Chamberlain, 6th generation Tennessean with Cherokee, English, Scots ancestry writes no books.

She spends her days phoning and emailing occupants of the Snake Pit a.k.a. Washington, D.C.

This is the most important thing all "legal" Americans can do to kill S.1348 and if that doesn't work the
875,000 people currently signed up on ImpeachBush.org can take it from there.

Posted by: Mary Chamberlain at June 15, 2007 12:34 PM

Mary Chamberlain.
I thank you for your reply. It's great to see freedom of speech at work.I understand and support your argument, but being an outsider I can only look on!
I know with your Cherokee,English & Scots ancestry you will be a formidable foe.
Reg.

Posted by: brewerreg at June 21, 2007 5:01 AM
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