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August 17, 2006

Live-Blogging From the NCSL

NASHVILLE - I'm writing this from the National Conference of State Legislatures' session on E-Legislatures: Technology and the Policymaking Process, exploring the role blogs and other Internet technologies have in the policymaking process, and I'm sad to report that it isn't packed with attendees. While approximately 1,000 legislators and 2,000 lobbyists are attending the NCSL's annual meeting, at Nashville's cavernous Opryland Hotel and convention center, there are only about 100 people attending this session.

ncslurquhart.jpgUtah state Rep. Steve Urquhart, a pioneer of legislator bloggers, just concluded his talk, in which he demonstrated the basics of posting to a blog. Urquhart, blogging since November 2004, mixes serious policy postings with more relaxed items such as one recently showing photographs from a trip lawmakers took to learn more about the oil and gas industry.

Some call such trips "junkets," but posting photos was a way to show the people that lawmakers really were doing work on the trip, Urquhart said. "My blog is just a way to tell people what I'm doing."

Says Urguhart, "This isn't about the technology. This is about doing the job you've always done but just doing it a little bit better."

Urquhart says a serious post about a controversial issue might draw 500 to 1,000 readers. "For a state legislator, that's almost rock-star status," he says.

Urquhart also showed off the group blog published by Utah Senate Republicans, which looks like a very interesting project that Tennessee's GOP Senate majority would do well to emulate. (For that matter, Tennessee's Senate Democrats ought to publish a similar site, I'm just not offering to help them do it.)

ncslmaak.jpgFollowing Urquart to the podium: Laurie Maak, Web Dialogue Developer and Manager with WestEd in San Francisco, California, who is discussing the application of "web dialogues" to help policymakers inform and involve members of the public, including young people, throughout the policymaking process.

ncslwebd.jpgWeb Dialogues are orchestrated discussions that can involve policy-makers, subject experts, students and members of the public in the exchange of information and ideas. "When individuals have the opportunity to participate in the process online, they will do so more in the future," predicts Maak.

Well, yeah.

Session moderator and Wisconsin state Sen. Robert Jauch just asked the session speakers about the need to keep blogs updated regularly - and noted that his own website's most recently added content is a press release from two months ago.

Maak responded that web dialogues "are not ongoing," but are structured online conversations that take place at a scheduled time and are "opened" and then "closed"

"I have always objected to ongoing online conversations because they tend to dribble after awhile," Maak said, adding she prefers that the conversation be scheduled and have a start and end.

Apparently she is not a fan of legislators maintaining ongoing conversations with constituents via blogs.

Urquhart says he doesn't feel the need to update his blog daily, and only posts when there are issues or things to write about. "I don't feel a need to keep my blog very current," said Urquhart, noting he doesn't have staff help for the blog. "I have my job, I have my family.

"If you did that with a typical blog it wouldn't work. People wouldn't read you anymore," he said.

Urquhart said there is a Utah politics blog that is updated daily with links to the latest articles and blog posts, including the latest on his blog. "That's the way a lot of people start their day, reading that blog," he said. I didn't catch the name of that Utah politics blog, and Urquhart's bare bones blog doesn't have a blogroll, but a quick Google search turned up UtahPolicy.com

Responding to a question about credibility of what is posted on blogs, Urquhart says he links to things from credible sources like newspapers and think tanks, adding, "I verify the things that I link to on my site."

Blog posts are a way to "move" the policy discussion, he said. "I do promote my agenda on my blog." The media "read the heck out of my blog," says Urquhart, who is Majority Whip in the Utah House of Representatives.

Urquhart says his blog and the information he's received from readers via comments and emails responding to a blog post has helped him pass legislation. "I've passed some legislation that I wouldn't have been able to pass, or it wouldn't have been in as good shape as it was, if it were not for the [feedback] from my blog."

He says that, when he started his blog, some thought he was nuts, telling him that opponents "are going to take things out of context" and use it against him in a future campaign. But he's finding instead that people are appreciative of the blog, even if they don't always agree with him on issues. "You can show that in a blog - that you are attentive to the people and listening to what they have to say."

The biggest benefit from blogging, Urquhart says, is the openness it conveys to constituents. "How could anyone think someone who would put up idiocy like this would be unapproachable?"

Previous coverage of the NCSL annual meeting:
NCSL: Term Limits Shift Budget Power To Executive Branch
NCSL Says Term Limits May Boost Power Of Lobbyists
NCSL Agrees To Let Blogger Cover Session on Blogs
NCSL's Report Belies Its Press Release
Newsflash: Association of Legislators Doesn't Like Term Limits

P.S. Before yesterday, the NCSL's official policy on giving bloggers media credentials to cover NCSL events was a flat, "We don't credential bloggers." Which, I'm guessing, makes me the first blogger in history to get media credentials from the National Conference of State Legislatures. Which is almost kind of a cool thing.

Meanwhile, it ain't live-blogging, but The Tennessean does have notes from the NCSL, and a story today about an NCSL session yesterday on lobbying.

Update: I emailed the NCSL press room after live-blogging the session and got a response. Both are below. My email:

Dear NCSL press room.Thanks again for the press credentials to cover that session this morning. I blogged the session live. You can read my post here: http://billhobbs.com/.

The direct link for it in the archives is http://billhobbs.com/2006/08/liveblogging_from_the_ncsl.html

By the way, I am a founding board member of the Media Bloggers Association (www.mediabloggers.org) and I'm sure we would be interested in working with the NCSL next year to arrange for a group of media-and-political bloggers to cover the NCSL annual meeting in Boston. I have cc'd this email to Robert Cox, president of the Media Bloggers Association.

NCSL's reponse:
Pretty cool, Bill. This live blog of a session is a first, and a great idea. Except 100 people at one session is a pretty good showing. Did you see our agenda? There is so much going on here, and many, many of them overlap. Just look here to see what this session was competing with: http://www.ncsl.org/annualmeeting/agenda/index.cfm. You have to select the day and scroll down to the time. And there are actually about 6,000 total people registered. There are about 1500 legislative staff and there are other government officials.

Nicole
It seems that a little bit of progress was made today in the relationship between state legislators and citizen's media.

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Comments

Your obsession with bloggers negates your thoughful analysis when you speak on the issues. If you really want to elevate the status of blogs, quit running around with your arms in slings from patting all your little blogging clique on the back--You act like a bunch of Helen Thomas wannabe's.

Posted by: George Rand at August 17, 2006 10:35 AM

Um. The session was about blogs.

Posted by: Bill Hobbs at August 17, 2006 11:47 AM

Yes it was-and you obsess over it. Go back and look at your web site and can you honestly say that you don't disproportionately cover the importance of blogging compared to other issues? Even more so look at the comments of your fellow "self annointed" on blogs-heavily weighted to self congratulation versus substantive issues.

Posted by: George Rand at August 17, 2006 11:57 AM

Go back and look at your web site and can you honestly say that you don't disproportionately cover the importance of blogging compared to other issues?

Hmm. I dunno. I went back and looked at my PayPal tip jar and found that you haven't disproportionately donated to the ongoing operation of this blog, and certainly not at the five-figure level that would give you the right to tell me what to do with my blog.

George, the development of blog-based grassroots networked journalism is one of the topics that I cover here.

I have posted six articles about the NCSL. Two were about blogs, four were about term limits and their impact on diversity, lobbying, and budgetary matters.

The first NCSL article about blogs was because the NCSL, A) had a panel about blogs, and, B) didn't want to let a blogger cover it.

The second article about blogs was coverage of the session on blogs, and the focus of it really isn't "BLOGS" per se, but the openness and interaction and dialogue that blogs enhance between lawmakers and the people they serve.

Most of my regular readers know that, in addition to doing blog-based grassroots network journalism here regarding various political topics, I also write about the development of this new media as relates to both journalism and politics.

Sorry if you don't like it. You didn't pay for it, so I'm not sure why you think you have a right to tell me what to write more or less about.

I'm going to continue to write about whatever I wish to here. I guess you could start your own blog and write about puppies or knitting or the bird flu or whatever you want to write about.

Or you could just go read some of the other 34 million blogs out there. I'm sure you'll find some more to your liking!

:-)

Posted by: Bill Hobbs at August 17, 2006 12:43 PM

The suggestion for a Republican-legislator group blog is a great idea for Tennessee.

Posted by: Donna Locke at August 17, 2006 2:02 PM

I don't think George realized part of your blog is devoted to supporting the whole concept of blogging and the impact it has on the traditional media and our culture.

Good series on NCSL. Hope you can keep it up.

Posted by: Rick Forman at August 17, 2006 4:15 PM

Thanks for your coverage of the conference. Is any other type of media doing anything similar?

I'm not sure why George Rand is wound so tight on blogging. I see it that people like you and me are trying to improve the institutions of representative democracy by encouraging governmental leaders to more closely interact with their constituents through technology. What's the harm in that? Whether the technology be a phone, fax, or a blog, I'm not sure why George would feel so challenged that we're excited about involving people in the government.

Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Steve Urquhart at August 17, 2006 6:54 PM

Steve, I think you and Bill should check his mission statement-"primarily focused on Tennessee politics". There were multiple sessions concurrent with the one Bill talked about. The one on Pre-K is a far bigger issue in TN politics than blogging. Other sessions included divesity strategy,funding rural development, energy and environment, school finance, and meicaid fraud. Yet Bill chose blogging-that is my criticism; rather than his excellent analysis of TN politics he chose self-promotion.
And Bill, I thought I was commenting on a post-not sleeping in the Lincoln bedroom. Guess you have to kiss your ring to comment.

Posted by: George Rand at August 17, 2006 8:16 PM

Nice piece of selective editing George, but my mission statement actually says in whole that my blog is "primarily focused on Tennessee politics, along with religion & culture, the media and the development of blog-based journalism, and the war on terror."

Oh, also, George, you wrote: There were multiple sessions concurrent with the one Bill talked about. The one on Pre-K is a far bigger issue in TN politics than blogging. Other sessions included divesity strategy,funding rural development, energy and environment, school finance, and meicaid fraud.

Yes there were. So, George, where is your blog with your report on the session on Pre-K? Or Divesity Strategy? Or Meicaid Fraud?

My point is this: I could only be in one session and, as a media consultant and blogging consultant who works with clients to leverage blogs for marketing and cause-marketing purposes, I chose the one about blogs and wrote about it (after, by the way, having written four posts about the NCSL that had zip to do with blogs and instead focused on the NCSL's attack on term limits).

But, thanks to the invention of blogging software, ANYBODY in ANY of the sessions could have blogged the session live, or done a post-session report. Including you, George Rand. (The URL GeorgeRand.com is available, by the way.)

I chose to live-blog the session on blogs because it interested me. And also to make a point.

And by live-blogging th session today, I caught the attention of the NCSL media folks and maybe opened a door to having more bloggers cover and live-blog more sessions next year. (See the email from the NCSL's "Nicole", which I posted as an update to the main post about the blog session.)

Posted by: Bill Hobbs at August 17, 2006 9:18 PM

Bill -

Missed you at the NCSL today. A few of us bloggers were invited to meet with Grover Norquist for breakfast this morning, and I was one of the lucky ones who was able to manipulate my schedule to do so.

Maybe next time I get to Nashville we can catch up.

Cheers,

Rob

Posted by: Rob Huddleston at August 17, 2006 10:50 PM
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